Saturday, October 3, 2009

Amnesty?

President Barak Obama has told the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services to plan for "for the possibility of giving legal status to millions of illegal immigrants," according to the New York Times.

I knew Comprehensive Immigration Reform was his Next Big Thing after cap and trade and health care, but this is the first I'd heard of his plans.

This is sure to start a pundit-storm. The people who are here legally, but under CNMI rules might see some hope in this.

I'm off to grab some typhoon supplies, but wanted to get something posted on this.

5 comments:

Brittanicus said...

Its not going to happen.

With unemployment at a 26 year high, the New York Times has revealed that immigration authorities at the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services have undertaken preparations for issuing visas to 11-18 millions (?) My guess over 20 million + illegal aliens who would be granted--BLANKET AMNESTY--if Congress is--able--to pass immigration reform legislation. Now is the time to remind your Senators and Representatives at 202-224-3121, that we demand they do NOT enroll on to this ill conceived abomination. Into our country at least a million law abiding newcomers come annually, clutching their entry visas; many waiting for years for a chance at the American dream. But the thrall of lobotomized Democrats are in for a hard lesson, including some Republican business enthusiasts, who think it's--going to be a simple solution approving this financial calamity.

This illegal alien mess has been methodically created by both parties for decades. But monumental amounts of the US population do not agree with this outcome. LaRaza, a radical anti-Sovereignty organization, will transform the US into a third world dumping ground yet? Incidentally regarding the 2010 Census? Small states will miss out big time on federal dollars, while mass illegal immigrant states will gain more seats in Congress and too much power and influence? Of course ICE could check the immigration status of those who are counted, even though it's supposedly against US law? Or is counting non-legal residence against the US Constitution?

All we need is mandatory E-Verify to remove from every honest business, workers who came here illegally; those who don't will suffer severe penalties. This is a murky back-door way for hard-line Liberal Democrats to sneak past all verification measures, which would approve a path to citizenship for lawbreakers thus giving them access to--YOUR--health care? All Americans GOOGLE--NUMBERSUSA, to uncover the deceitful way they plan to cheat all legal workers and citizens? America is already on the road to irreversible OVERPOPULATION. Do all the people out their who are suffering from a compassion syndrome, believe--ALL--Americans want to pay even higher taxes to support corporate welfare, for the millions they have already hired? I don't think so?

This is one of the cloaked agendas of The Council of Foreign Relations to intensify the unfettered inflow of destitute peoples into North America. We already spend more money across the globe, than anyone else? Yet the United Nations is never satisfied. We already have a negative-dollar free trade treaty, which has seen the disappearance of our manufacturing industries. To me Globalism and internationalism are dirty words, and when Americans open their eyes it might be too late? Our country is being emasculated by the illegal immigration and the financial support poured out by unaware taxpayers. America is like the Greek god "Atlas" supporting the world and its issues? That is exactly what we are doing--SUPPORTING THE WORLD? For the record 15 Democrats are already discussing your fate, as they strife to undermine immigration enforcement amendments:

Brittanicus said...

1. To permanently reauthorize E-Verify? 2. To complete the 700 miles of border fencing? 3. To continue and not rescind the No-match-letter program, that HS Napolitano has closed down. 4. Grassley’s amendment to allow all businesses that use E-Verify to run all of their current employees through the E-Verify system. Go see who the traitors are to our protection of the border at NUMBERSUSA.

Do you know what the state of our highways or underground utilities? Each state has 30 year underground causeways of irreparable water and sewage pipes that our government has ignored. Again I say watch "The Crumbling of America" on the History channel. Each year our bridges and dams are deteriorating, so they do hasty repairs, but many are seeing deployable erosion that cannot be fixed, because the state has not enough money? Yet the Democrats want to cause an avalanche of impoverished people, who will want to bring in even more family members. Who’s going to recompense for them? Then even more will break through the fence, enter as a tourist or slip into America via the Caribbean? The onslaught will never end and our reservoir of cash is finally exhausted.

I have a hard time paying my taxes, without paying more for the impecunious, uneducated who slip into our sovereign country bring the criminals, the handicapped and elderly immigrants. Who pays for my family and kids, the house payment, health care and car? NOT THE BLOODY TRAITORS IN WASHINGTON ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE WHO KEEP PILING ON HIDDEN TAXES TO SUBSIDIZE ILLEGAL FOREIGNERS AND FAMILIES FROM OTHER COUNTRIES. I'LL EVEN GO FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE SKILLED JOBS AND SOMETHING TO OFFER, BUT NOT FOR JUST ANYBODY WHO TAXPAYERS HAVE TO SUPPORT? Learn more about corruption at JUDICIAL WATCH. Learn about POPULATION GROWTH at CAPSWEB.

KAP said...

Well. I agree that "This illegal alien mess has been methodically created by both parties for decades."

We seem to disagree about how the problem can be fixed.

You see, I worked alongside migrant workers (we didn't discuss their status) years and years ago. The difference was that for me it was a lark. Hard work, but a summer job that paid pretty well if you dug in. I had options and moved on. They didn't.

There weren't enough legal fieldworkers then and there certainly aren't now. I got the job in a heartbeat. That's only one example.

For years, I thought some sort of guest worker program could work 'if only' it was administered better. If only this, if only that. After 20+ years of living with the CNMI version I no longer believe that.

I'm not in favor of open borders. I believe that citizens or nationals should get first crack at jobs, and that immigrants shouldn't be used as virtual strikebreakers to keep wages low. I'm leery of exporting jobs also, so I suppose globalism and internationalism are dirty words to me also.

That's a major problem with the current system in my view: the deck is stacked in favor of employers.

I see that you fear we're being overrun, even that this is being done intentionally.

For me there are 11 million, or 20 million, people filling jobs illegally. We need to sort them out: send the worst home and give the others a path to citizenship.

Border fencing? Sure, but 700 miles isn't enough. How many more? Send them all home? We'd have to hire immigrants to get enough Border Control officers.

That was just to lighten up a little: I hate to write ponderously for so long, and I do apologize for the length of my reply. I could go on a lot longer.

I also apologize for using the title "Amnesty", because I was hoping to hear from someone with views something like yours. It was a red flag and intentionally inaccurate.

Thank you for posting. I'm really trying to understand your point of view. I wish there was some middle ground where we could meet, but the gulf might be too large. We're both likely to be disappointed because swarms of lobbyists will have a much greater voice than us.

Oh, I think I've seen you post elsewhere, at least I've seen the name used with similar comments

Saipan Writer said...

There's such a gulf caused by language.

Some aliens are "illegal" while others are "undocumented"--meaning they haven't gotten over all the hurdles and through the paperwork hoops, but in essence they could, would or should be legal if we had an effective and efficient administration and an immigration code that was cleaner, neater, and better tied to its purposes.

I'm a "hardline liberal Democrat" who supports E-Verify. I couldn't tell if Brittanicus was for or against it. I think if illegal and undocumented workers couldn't get jobs, they wouldn't come in quite the same numbers.

We have a big mess to clean up. But I'm guessing if we really looked at the entire picture, we'd see that hard-working aliens (whether illegal, undocumented or legal) are contributing more than they're costing us; and that the real, more serious, drain is coming from the super rich and their tax breaks, from corruption and the Bush era, Abramoff Republican agendas that have left us with a lot of illogical (but rah-rah America) rhetoric.

I wonder if Brittanicus spends as much time urging people to seek campaign spending limits and better laws with fewer loopholes, etc., as he does drumming up hate against foreignors.


jmho

bigsoxfan said...

Not to the point of your post, but an illuminating article none the less. Seems like the usual holes have/are closing up and a plane trip to Saipan followed by a boat trip to guam, wait for a Guam/us travel document, is much better than a trip across the desert.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-chinese-smuggling5-2009oct05,0,4972825.story